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Yeah, Weber was a terrible hire. I always say that you our I could've coached the '05 team to the FF. He wrecked Illini hoops before Groce completely stomped all the life out of it.

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Wow - great history lesson. I knew about Brown, but James?? Ugh! What a complete miss! Both are, as we all know. I can see RG's apprehension about Brown.

And you mentioned Self/Gillespie had some minor run ins. I vaguely remember that, recruiting obviously, right?

Thanks, keep up the great work, Jeff!

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Coleman scapegoated for many things but he did hire Lou Henson...who built the monster known as Illini hoops....Guenther day he hired Weber talking about the 'big hire' he could have made...how fuckin' tone deal was he? 70's era Illini basketball player/booster who loved Self....would always say at the Tumble Inn about Guenther, 'he let my buddy (Self) go and hired Howdy Doody (Weber)'....'He (Guenther) could have hired Larry Brown and hired Howdy Doody' with the emphasis on 'Doody'....good times...

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